if i could use the analogy, i played football at southeast texas. it's almost like we had a team of football players running around on the field with no coach and what 9/11 not only the kind -- commission did find was because we didn't have agencies on the home team we needed a quarterback and that is what the whole world with the department of homeland security is, to bring together all the different agencies that have equities in defending the homeland into one team in under one coach. i think the size of the organization candidly should be shocking. all of us taking every one of those pieces that were there already and bringing them in for better coordination. >> host: gatesvilgatesvil le texas independent line with chad sweet ceo in co-founder of the chertoff group that formerly with the department of homeland security and the cia. >> caller: we always made -- the problem is you all stopped making one or two things that you are taking and putting the whole country -- you keep referring to people going through an intersection with a stop sign. [i